徵求FISH居所租金、財政來源資料
徵求FISH居所租金、財政來源資料
by tearinheart Wed May 19, 2010 8:11 pm
徵求FISH居所租金、財政來源資料
#0, by towards2lord, 18 May 2010 02:57
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有冇肢體知道fish係溫哥華住既apartment係邊度比錢租？幾時開始由個度比錢？聽講志光講過fish住緊既apartment係生命流出版社比錢，但佢就無講一開始由生命流比錢，定係佢比肢體迫得緊要，先至講由生命流比，有冇肢體可以提供有關既資料。
志光講fish從來無係生命流收稿費，所以居所由生命流比錢。但我認為咁有唔妥當既地方，我唔知道一般稿費係幾多，但近十年黎，fish有mud出產先，每一本有關佢既信息筆錄，佢都未睇過就出版（簡單係講，出左咩事，佢都可以推得一乾二淨）。試問，佢一d貢獻都無，咁有mud條件收取居所居住先，但結果無係生命流定係教會，係呢十年多黎就為佢付出左成一百萬六十八萬租錢（每月CAD2000´12´10´HKD7(平均兌1CAD)，租地方比佢住。以前都講：有功者留飯不留菜，無功者飯菜不留。就用呢個原則，fish既唔可以有由生命流支付既居所住，亦都無適當餵養小羊，佢根本就唔可以分到整筆專心分享既一部分。大家認為係咪？
所以，為左揭開一層又一層既面紗，我地徵求FISH居所租金、財政來源資料，希望BS幫忙，但千祈資料唔好老作，我地“是就說是，不是就說不是”，千祈唔好坑人地。因為我地要避免日後難向主交帳
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#1, by wmbaby, 18 May 2010 05:37 PM
還有雜費(如水、電....等)支出，又是誰支付呢？因十年都不是短的日子，中國人有句話，小數怕長計。如有肢體有這方面的資料，煩請一並提供。謝謝
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#2, by vancouverjoe, 18 May 2010 07:04
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我可以"寫包單"，一定冇
正所謂，寧比人知，莫比人見。
呢啲咁既數一定冇record
就算以前週年大會，都只會用一句
".....,.......,UBC, ........, 一共用了xxx"
來交代，一定不會以個別項目來說明。
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#3, by brokenheart, 18 May 2010 07:49 PM
还有一件事
当温哥华教会卖了868宿舍后，所得的金钱计算可以支持教会大约两年的开支
但有一次开会的时候，有一位同工说了一句话:
""余弟兄好像看中了一个UBC的单位......"
幸好当时有一些有良心的弟兄姊妹否决了这个提议..
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#4, by criticalthinking, 18 May 2010
08:31 PM
卖了868!!!!!!!!
專心住在哪裡???
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#5, by truelies, 18 May 2010 11:02 PM
small house with a lot few rooms, and only certain b/s can live there. Big
contrast right? Fish living by himself in a two-bedroom
apartment!!!
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#6, by criticalthinking, 18 May 2010
11:27 PM
Do u know why they sell 868.Although the rent they can collect is low, their
only concern might only be paying property taxes..I don't know why they have to
sell it?
My good guess is that fish is paying like 1200 ish rent(currently time should
be a bit cheaper if he started renting 4-5 years ago) because Canada has law on
rent control. It is illegal to raise rent over 4% each year.
I don't agree the church should reveal fish's financial situation because it
is a very intrusive act. However, all the members of the church has the right to
know how much money has be transfered from any TCOG related company/organization
to fish.
Also assuming that fish has a very large percentage of the gain for his book
sale. I think he should be able to pay the rent with that money because he does
not have any dependent. However, it would be very improper for him to discourage
b/s to read books from other author because it is a conflict of interest. Also
the church should not give him money for no reason.
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#7, by teriyaki, 18 May 2010 11:59 PM
fish 在溫哥華傳福音？佢好似在溫哥華養老多啲， 然後叫大家跟佢發甜夢。 關於fish住屋既問題， TCOG常逃避答金錢上的問題，
由點會比大家知清楚條數呀！
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#8, by teriyaki, 19 May 2010 12:04 AM
佢哋話868已經舊喎！有好多嘢要維修， 所以賣出去。 不過我覺得賣得好神秘，咁大單賣買都無叫全教會祈禱去求主帶領。
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#9, by john_connor, 19 May 2010 12:22 AM
FISH在溫哥華,
再不是以禱告傳道為念,
似乎是炒樓搞房地產
B/S 為何要繼續給TCOG金錢呢?
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#10, by hkman77, 19 May 2010 08:48 AM
余xx住緊個間豪宅，邊洗佢出錢架！但教會一定唔會話你知，不過，神問到就會講比神一個知囉！無你份架！
各位，你地知唔知余xx銀行戶口有幾多錢呢？
而佢每月奉獻收入，教會福利收入有無人可以統計出泥？
仲有佢平時生活所需，是否由教會提供而不需要佢老人家支出一分一毫呢？
還有佢乘坐既機票又是否由教會比呢？佢食緊既我驚你又由邊個免費提供呢？
如果以上都不需要余xx出錢，分分鐘佢依幾十年放係銀行戶口既錢多到你唔信囉？
你話做佢依個位幾禁好呢？每月淨收入可能好過做CEO！不過依個位就一定唔可以比其他人坐！唯余獨遵架！
#0, by towards2lord, 18 May 2010 02:57
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有冇肢體知道fish係溫哥華住既apartment係邊度比錢租？幾時開始由個度比錢？聽講志光講過fish住緊既apartment係生命流出版社比錢，但佢就無講一開始由生命流比錢，定係佢比肢體迫得緊要，先至講由生命流比，有冇肢體可以提供有關既資料。
志光講fish從來無係生命流收稿費，所以居所由生命流比錢。但我認為咁有唔妥當既地方，我唔知道一般稿費係幾多，但近十年黎，fish有mud出產先，每一本有關佢既信息筆錄，佢都未睇過就出版（簡單係講，出左咩事，佢都可以推得一乾二淨）。試問，佢一d貢獻都無，咁有mud條件收取居所居住先，但結果無係生命流定係教會，係呢十年多黎就為佢付出左成一百萬六十八萬租錢（每月CAD2000´12´10´HKD7(平均兌1CAD)，租地方比佢住。以前都講：有功者留飯不留菜，無功者飯菜不留。就用呢個原則，fish既唔可以有由生命流支付既居所住，亦都無適當餵養小羊，佢根本就唔可以分到整筆專心分享既一部分。大家認為係咪？
所以，為左揭開一層又一層既面紗，我地徵求FISH居所租金、財政來源資料，希望BS幫忙，但千祈資料唔好老作，我地“是就說是，不是就說不是”，千祈唔好坑人地。因為我地要避免日後難向主交帳
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#1, by wmbaby, 18 May 2010 05:37 PM
還有雜費(如水、電....等)支出，又是誰支付呢？因十年都不是短的日子，中國人有句話，小數怕長計。如有肢體有這方面的資料，煩請一並提供。謝謝
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#2, by vancouverjoe, 18 May 2010 07:04
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我可以"寫包單"，一定冇
正所謂，寧比人知，莫比人見。
呢啲咁既數一定冇record
就算以前週年大會，都只會用一句
".....,.......,UBC, ........, 一共用了xxx"
來交代，一定不會以個別項目來說明。
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#3, by brokenheart, 18 May 2010 07:49 PM
还有一件事
当温哥华教会卖了868宿舍后，所得的金钱计算可以支持教会大约两年的开支
但有一次开会的时候，有一位同工说了一句话:
""余弟兄好像看中了一个UBC的单位......"
幸好当时有一些有良心的弟兄姊妹否决了这个提议..
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#4, by criticalthinking, 18 May 2010
08:31 PM
卖了868!!!!!!!!
專心住在哪裡???
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#5, by truelies, 18 May 2010 11:02 PM
They bought a
卖了868!!!!!!!!
專心住在哪裡???
-criticalthinking
small house with a lot few rooms, and only certain b/s can live there. Big
contrast right? Fish living by himself in a two-bedroom
apartment!!!
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#6, by criticalthinking, 18 May 2010
11:27 PM
Do u know why they sell 868.Although the rent they can collect is low, their
only concern might only be paying property taxes..I don't know why they have to
sell it?
My good guess is that fish is paying like 1200 ish rent(currently time should
be a bit cheaper if he started renting 4-5 years ago) because Canada has law on
rent control. It is illegal to raise rent over 4% each year.
I don't agree the church should reveal fish's financial situation because it
is a very intrusive act. However, all the members of the church has the right to
know how much money has be transfered from any TCOG related company/organization
to fish.
Also assuming that fish has a very large percentage of the gain for his book
sale. I think he should be able to pay the rent with that money because he does
not have any dependent. However, it would be very improper for him to discourage
b/s to read books from other author because it is a conflict of interest. Also
the church should not give him money for no reason.
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#7, by teriyaki, 18 May 2010 11:59 PM
fish 在溫哥華傳福音？佢好似在溫哥華養老多啲， 然後叫大家跟佢發甜夢。 關於fish住屋既問題， TCOG常逃避答金錢上的問題，
由點會比大家知清楚條數呀！
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#8, by teriyaki, 19 May 2010 12:04 AM
佢哋話868已經舊喎！有好多嘢要維修， 所以賣出去。 不過我覺得賣得好神秘，咁大單賣買都無叫全教會祈禱去求主帶領。
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#9, by john_connor, 19 May 2010 12:22 AM
FISH在溫哥華,
再不是以禱告傳道為念,
似乎是炒樓搞房地產
B/S 為何要繼續給TCOG金錢呢?
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#10, by hkman77, 19 May 2010 08:48 AM
余xx住緊個間豪宅，邊洗佢出錢架！但教會一定唔會話你知，不過，神問到就會講比神一個知囉！無你份架！
各位，你地知唔知余xx銀行戶口有幾多錢呢？
而佢每月奉獻收入，教會福利收入有無人可以統計出泥？
仲有佢平時生活所需，是否由教會提供而不需要佢老人家支出一分一毫呢？
還有佢乘坐既機票又是否由教會比呢？佢食緊既我驚你又由邊個免費提供呢？
如果以上都不需要余xx出錢，分分鐘佢依幾十年放係銀行戶口既錢多到你唔信囉？
你話做佢依個位幾禁好呢？每月淨收入可能好過做CEO！不過依個位就一定唔可以比其他人坐！唯余獨遵架！
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